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Now, obviously still there's much flexibility here (especially in #4 of course) because even OOU promo images often have multiple versions or takes, and there are often multiple IU promos to choose from when necessary, however I don't think there should ever be any exceptions to the above rules. --[[User:Proudhug|proudhug]] 03:09, 30 May 2009 (UTC) |
Now, obviously still there's much flexibility here (especially in #4 of course) because even OOU promo images often have multiple versions or takes, and there are often multiple IU promos to choose from when necessary, however I don't think there should ever be any exceptions to the above rules. --[[User:Proudhug|proudhug]] 03:09, 30 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | : I disagree on these grounds: While the early season cast photos were clearly "in-character" so to speak, the more recent seasons have "actor" shots rather than character shots. While Tony is clearly in character for Season 7, Renee is clearly NOT in character. While I think they are fine to use on the actor pages, they are not photos of 'the characters' anyway, because they don't exist in universe. If the pages are written IU, why on Earth would you have an OOU photo? I think that there should not be any arbitrary rules set down for the photos. I think that it should be the best photo available. |
+ | : I disagree on these grounds: While the early season cast photos were clearly "in-character" so to speak, the more recent seasons have "actor" shots rather than character shots. While Tony is clearly in character for Season 7, Renee is clearly NOT in character. While I think they are fine to use on the actor pages, they are not photos of 'the characters' anyway, because they don't exist in universe. If the pages are written IU, why on Earth would you have an OOU photo? I think that there should not be any arbitrary rules set down for the photos. I think that it should be the best photo available. {{User:Willo/sig}} 05:13, 30 May 2009 (UTC) |
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Episodes
During the latter half of this season, the issue of group consensus for episode guide main images came up each and every week. It seems different people have different ideas of what criteria is important. Obviously the issue is moot until next January, but perhaps it's a good idea to get hash out what criteria are important in choosing a main image right now. Some people think it should be an image that reflects the mood of that particular episode, or the theme, or simply the most memorable moment. Some think non-character images should be avoided, some think main characters deserve at least one feature on a main image per season, some think that it's a bad idea to repeat a character twice in a row, or too many times in one season. Some people think that week's explosion should always be the main image. I don't think it's a bad idea to work out a set of official criteria and incorporate it into policy. What actually is important in choosing an image? --proudhug 01:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- I was actually working on a similar post, proudhug. Reguardless, here are the rules I always followed:
- The photo must be dynamic. This means that something must be happening in the photo. This eliminates photos of people standing around. The main image is like the cover of a book. It should be interesting.
- The photo should be episode unique. This means that someone who has seen an episode of 24 can easily idenitfy what episode it is from and get a basic idea of which episode it was from. Not every episode has a heart stopping moment, but just about every episode has one where something unique happens.
- The photo should look good in 300px and 150px. This is a problem with some of the current main images, mainly in seasons 1, 3 and 6
- The photo should represent the episode. This means that the photo should generally give someone an idea of the most important themes of the episiode. However...
- Don't ruin the episode. This doesn't mean that the picture has to contain no spoilers, but rather than showing the actual ending of an episode, show a character reaction. See Day 5 6:00pm-7:00pm for a great examlpe of that.
- Also, I don't subscribe to any policy that any character "should" be given a main image. The main image should be viewed on as an episode to episode basis. I don't feel that an image should be removed solely on the basis of repetition. If there are two equal images, then yes the less repetitive image should be selected.
- Finally, I've made some picks for good and bad images, and put them here Willo talk contribs email 03:01, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
My biggest problem is the "overall season picture" idea that some people seem to have. I agree that each image should case-by-case, regardless of whether it results in a certain character getting way more images, or another one getting none. If a character appears in every episode of a season, but never qualifies for a main image, so what. The idea is to represent an important moment from each individual episode, not tell a coherent slideshow story on the season page. --proudhug 03:24, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Characters
Wow, am I the only one left who prefers to use the official "OOU" promo image for main character images, ie. the ones featured on Fox.com? It seems people now want to keep changing these to action shots from the show. I think this is a bad idea, especially since I love the consistency of having the official promos for each of the main characters. Here's how I think character images should be done:
- If there's an official Fox promo photoshoot pic for the character's most recent season (ie. OOU posed, looking at the camera), we use that for their main image. (See Edgar Stiles)
- If no OOU promo image exists for the character's most recent season, an IU promo is used. (See Charles Logan)
- If no promo image exists for the most recent season, the most recent promo image available is used, following steps #1 and #2. (See Martha Logan)
- If no promo image exists at all for the character, a cropped screenshot from their most recent season is used. (See 99.9% of all characters on Wiki 24)
Now, obviously still there's much flexibility here (especially in #4 of course) because even OOU promo images often have multiple versions or takes, and there are often multiple IU promos to choose from when necessary, however I don't think there should ever be any exceptions to the above rules. --proudhug 03:09, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
- I disagree on these grounds: While the early season cast photos were clearly "in-character" so to speak, the more recent seasons have "actor" shots rather than character shots. While Tony is clearly in character for Season 7, Renee is clearly NOT in character. While I think they are fine to use on the actor pages, they are not photos of 'the characters' anyway, because they don't exist in universe. If the pages are written IU, why on Earth would you have an OOU photo? I think that there should not be any arbitrary rules set down for the photos. I think that it should be the best photo available. Willo talk contribs email 05:13, 30 May 2009 (UTC)