Forum: The Situation Room > New, single appearances template
Put this together: Template:Appearances to streamline all those individual Appearances templates; it's currently in use on Jack Bauer and Chloe O'Brian. Thoughts? --Pyramidhead 06:47, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
- This way all the novels and things are at the bottom as opposed to in timeline order. I think its a lot more useful to have stuff in order of when it was supposed to happen in the 24-verse. --SignorSimon (talk/contribs/email) 09:49, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
- It's funny: the placement of the EU content at the bottom was the only thing I liked about the new templates. I'm a 24 purist and consider only the shows to be canon, and have always wanted a separate wiki altogether for non-show stuff, like how there is the Memory Beta wiki instead of cramming it all onto Memory Alpha. Anyway, if this gets changed I won't have any reason to support the new templates at all. My reasons for not approving of them now:
- There are no problems with the current templates. None whatsoever.
- Cramming all this onto 1 template will force everyone to re-learn how to use the appearances template. Not necessary.
- There is a huge detriment to all this! You can't navigate to the specific Day's Appearances from the TOC with this new template. If you included edit tabs inside the template, people would be sent over to the template itself, not that spot on the character's page.
- "Streamlining" onto 1 template will increase the load time as the page scrambles to decide what part of the template gets loaded during a page access/refresh. This is why Wikia has said to put documentation on a separate page: less for the template to load. Blue Rook talk contribs 12:02, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
- It's funny: the placement of the EU content at the bottom was the only thing I liked about the new templates. I'm a 24 purist and consider only the shows to be canon, and have always wanted a separate wiki altogether for non-show stuff, like how there is the Memory Beta wiki instead of cramming it all onto Memory Alpha. Anyway, if this gets changed I won't have any reason to support the new templates at all. My reasons for not approving of them now:
- I would argue that there are problems. The arbitrary "Xa-Ya" syntax, for one; at this point, I can usually remember episodes by the time of day, but a lot of people, including the people who work on the show, go more by episode numbers, which this new template would as well. Plus, the current system requires you to stick in graphic novels and other non-template entries in between the boxes, which look really ugly in my opinion.
- It's hardly rocket science to figure out how to use the new template. Again, XxYY is simpler than the time of day parameters.
- You can, actually. Go check it out.
- I tested it out, and honestly there's no real difference in load time, or at worst a negligible one. If it's really an issue, it wouldn't be that difficult to separate each season table into separate templates, like it currently is now, but still have them in a single navbox. --Pyramidhead 20:46, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
To be honest, I'm starting to come around to the idea. They do look a lot neater. At the minute, my concern is that they all are collapsed as default. On pages such as John Adams which have very little information already there's no need for them to be hidden away and for users to have to press to look at the content. As a matter of fact, I don't think that feature would ever be all that necessary - in what situation is it an advantage? --SignorSimon (talk/contribs/email) 10:45, March 9, 2010 (UTC)