Talk:White

Possible actor?

I think this guy looks very similar to John Ashker, another 24 stuntman. [1] What does anyone else think? --ASHPD24 02:19, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes you're definitely on to something there. They seem to have a lot in common with their faces... Blue Rook  talk  contribs 03:58, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that they do look similar, but on checking the episode I can't find any better shots of the guy to compare more. (PS I was just wondering about John Ashker, did u get his name from imdb looking for Robert Joseph :P?)

But here are my confused and not very coherent thoughts on the three stuntmen from that scene (White, Bergen, and Morisson's hitman). Look at Bergen in his pic, and as Tom says on the talkpage he looks very much like John Meier. But look at him on the pic for the White article, and I'd say it was Thom Williams! They look like two different guys!

Add into this, that according to Tom's userpage there was a scene involving Randall Archer, Thom Williams and Tim Sitarz, that would make the Morisson hitman Randall Archer (possibility?), Bergen Thom Williams, and White Tim Sitarz (check google images to see this is a possibility too). Or maybe Thom Williams played the Angry_neighbor. Or maybe this isn't what Tom's page was referring to at all! I am so confused--Acer4666 11:59, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

I think Agent White and this slain agent were played by the same actor. --William 12:26, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure they're the same guy William - the faces don't convince me, plus White is completely bald whereas that guy has hair round the back of his head--Acer4666 16:10, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Definitiely not. White's head is much rounder overall and the faces look completely different. --ASHPD24 16:37, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

This is not the episode I was talking about. The episode in which Tim Sitarz, Thom Williams and Randall Archer worked together was shot on location outside, it looks like a parking lot with large white buildings in the background although I am not sure if they really shot outside or just posed for the picture. Thom Williams is wearing a blue jeans, a dark grey jacket and a black shirt, Archer is wearing a white shirt and a light grey beyond that, and Tim Sitarz is wearing a white shirt, a grey plaid one above that and a grey/brown vest. That's the episode I was talking about. Bergen was not played by Thom Williams and White is definitly not Tim Sitarz as Sitarz is really tall. I am also sure that White was not portryed by John Ashker. His nose is not so long. Tom 17:06, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Any chance you could link to the picture - or maybe upload it, or e-mail it?--Acer4666 17:27, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Not sure if the link is working. Let me know. [2] Tom 17:37, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Ah cheers, yeah the link worked, but I don't recognise anything! Other than th blue railings in the background...they seem familiar for some reason...I'll keep an eye out for this scene, but I think it may be a season 7 one--Acer4666 18:31, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

I can say that the photo tom linked to with Tim Sitarz, Randall Archer and Thom Williams was taken outside the Bubba Gump Shrimp company at 301 Santa Monica Pier [3], I dunno if anyone can street view around that area and see if it looks familiar with season 7 scenes? I don't recognise it, unless they were in the Santa Monica scenes of season 6 and that photo was taken during the day (scenes filmed at night)--Acer4666 11:22, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, silly me - I think these people are all -part of the bar brawl in Day 6: 9:00pm-10:00pm. Randall Archer is wearing the same clothes, I'll check it out tonight then stick the relevant info on the articles--Acer4666 13:34, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

3 Mystery Guys revisited

Been having another think about the confusing threesome of White, Bergen, and hitman. I'm gonna use my old broken-record tack of "stunts unlimited guys stick together in scenes" and say that White could be Charlie Brewer, Bergen is John Meier (as User:ThomasHL suggests on the talk page) and the hitman is Brent Fletcher. All three are Stunts Unlimited, they all list 24 in their credits, and I think they look like the people. The only anomaly is what Bergen looks like in the picture of White on this page - he looks completely nothing like what Bergen looks like on the Bergen page. I'll check the scene to see if they could've done an actor switch--Acer4666 (talk) 10:04, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

I've watched the scene, and think that for the shot of the car driving a different actor was used, but as soon as the car pulls up to the house it's John Meier. I'd also like to retract Charlie Brewer as White - White looks much younger. It does look like John Ashker, but the nose is a little different. I do think Brent Fletcher is the hitman though--Acer4666 (talk) 13:58, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think that Bergen's car actor could be Thom Williams, though I don't understand why 2 separate actors would be needed for 2 short scenes! --ASHPD24 19:31, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

At the moment I've only been able to examine the Brent Fletcher/Hitman connection, and I have to agree it's him. If not, it's his twin. (I dug up some unused screencaps I have of the hitman's face, close-ups while he was ramming the car, and all the features match perfectly). Very nice catch! Acer if you want to do the honors, go nuts. Blue Rook  talk  contribs 04:30, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Okay I'm thinking the axctor who plays Bergen in the car looks a lot like separatist #3 or separatist #6 from Day 5. Problem is, I'm not sure who plays either. --ASHPD24 22:48, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Trace Cheramie

On the imdb cast list for 24:Redemption (here), there are a few credits that I believe have been mistakenly put there, as the title of the imdb page is just "24", so I think people who were just in 24 in general have been put on there. It lists Trace Cheramie as playing Agent White, and here is a comparison of White and Cheramie. It looks like it could be a possibility--Acer4666 (talk) 20:24, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

This is good, I like it. But does this mean some of the others listed there are from different episodes? Could the "Suspected Terrorist" be either the guy in the bar from S1 or the office worker from S4? The cameraman could be anyone, though. --ASHPD24 21:00, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Strong resemblance there, Acer. The other dudes I have no idea about (it looks like some kind of mistake, I agree) but as for White I wouldn't be opposed if you felt strongly enough. Blue Rook  talk  contribs 23:44, January 12, 2012 (UTC)